Thread:Uskok/@comment-32559360-20180101224456/@comment-32559360-20180104152711

Hi, mate,

@ Shape of shore: No, don’t get me wrong. I don’t think, Wallilabou Bay is representing itself. But you agree that the real appearance of the Port Royal Bay has nothing to do with the appearance of the filming location, don’t you?

The real Port Royal is a flat spit of land, 1.25 km long and 900 meters wide, not higher than 5 or 6 meters above sea level, the desolate rest, what was left of the former Port Royal after the earthquake of 1692. It is lying within a bay, around 3 kilometers away from the shore on each side, except the eastward narrow dyke-like peninsula, which is linking to the eastern shore of the bay.

The filmmakers chose a bay completely surrounded by hills, which are between 56 and 61 meters high at the outmost end of the shore and nearly 100 meters high at the innermost point of the bay. The bay is measuring nearly 600 meters from cape to cape and nearly 500 meters from coast to the cape line.

If the filmmakers would have had the intention of using a filming location, which is reflecting the real place, they would have chosen another location.

In other cases we do keep in mind that POTC does not reflect the reality. We know that Tortuga, for example, wasn’t a pirate location anymore in 1751, since pirates were droven off the island in 1688 by the French and the Spaniards, but in POTC it is. We know there is no island amidst of the Caribbean, which is called Shipwreck Cove, but in The Price of Freedom it does exist, where in reality is a huge space of nothing than water. We admit the ranks and uniforms of the Royal Navy in the films aren’t really comparable to the real ranks and uniforms by that time. So why should reality count more in this question? Why couldn’t have Port Royal in POTC another shape and dimension in the movie than in reality?

I don’t refer to Henry’s map, dear friend. I’m aware it is painted by a twelve year old boy – and I remember my own poor painting talents of that age. Henry has definitely more talent of painting than I had at his age. Uh, by the way: He painted a compass in his map. You see it on the right side above the ships.

Therefore I think, it is possible the dimensions and shape of Wallilabou Bay may represent the … let’s say … POTC-Port Royal.

@ How could Elizabeth be there, when the lighthouse is not her home? How Henry could know, she would be there despite his long absence? Why is this the place, Will comes for as he did after his first ten years of service? Why doesn’t he anchor in the harbour?

I’ll begin with the last question: Until Will‘s ultimate release the  Flying Dutchman  is feared as a ghost ship – even with this noble captain. I presume, he wouldn’t risk a mass panic by appearing with this most feared ship directly in the harbour. This might be the one point. Another may be that he never met his family in the harbour but on the bluffs.

In the after-credits-scene of AWE we see Elizabeth and Henry walking to the shore. They know, the  Flying Dutchman  will appear in a green flash and they want to see Will and his ship as early as it might be possible, in the second they (ship and captain) will appear in the green flash. In that scene, the  Flying Dutchman  does not appear near the coast, but is revealed in the green flash at the horizon and is sailing to the shore with Will up in the rigging. Will therefore is able to see his family on the hill from far, as we remember from that scene. We didn’t saw meeting on the bluffs by that time, but the nowadays novel tells, they met there on the bluffs. It seems really uncomfortable for Will to climb up the bluffs to meet his family, but it may be possible, he wanted not to waste much of the little time he had – one day – and climbed up there to meet them as fast as possible. That might explain, why he does not anchor in the harbour but in front of the bluffs.

By the description in the book the  Flying Dutchman  appears again at the horizon. Here is a little difference between novelization and movie, as the  Flying Dutchman  is first seen only some fathoms from the shore.

@ Elizabeth: Well, by the description in the novelization Will is feeling his freedom. Perhaps Elizabeth shares this feeling even without being told, her beloved familiymembers, son and husband, are back at the usual meeting-place. This might explain she is coming to the bluffs without being informed of her familiys return, even if her home is not the lighthouse or another house in the neighbourhood (what might be not in the map, because it might be not relevant as a landmark).

@ Artwork: I found two of them referring to the lighthouse on Love’s hompage. I must admit I didn’t know the reasons, why Jeremy Love put so much passion in this object. And – yes – I must admit, the lighthous-keeper’s house directly added to the lighthouse may be big enough to have a bedroom in the really big dimension as it is shown in the after-credit-scene.

But if Elizabeth is living in there: In the meeting-scene she does not run down from the lighthouse, but from another way, a coachway which is leading to the lighthouse, but is coming from elsewhere. If she had spected the return of her family from the lighthouse, she should have come down the path from the lighthouse directly at the bluffs and not from the coachway.

Why no artwork of her home? Yes, there are no published artworks for Elizabeth’s home. Love painted the interior of the  Queen Anne’s Revenge , of the chart shop. On his homepage he published several paintings from Dead Men Tell No Tales. Why a concept art explicit for Elizabeth’s home (interior and/or exterior) wasn’t published, I don’t know. But that does not mean, such a concept art does not exist. I’m sure, he made artwork for the interior of her home, since every filming set is to be worked out in concept art and engineering drawing.

<p style="margin-left:72.0pt">I have no real proof that Elizabeth is living in the former Governor’s manor. In the article about the manor I made this clear and declared it as „possible“ until Dierangosuq changed the article. It might be that she is living in the lighthouse, there is some indication, but there is also no real proof for that without a statement from the production. Henry’s map indicates Port Royal (or very near environment) is his and his mother’s home, but a certain place is not revealed.