Thread:Uskok/@comment-27295021-20180325125431/@comment-27295021-20180402200836

How do I what?

Yep, failing to finish a sentence isn't embarresing at all.. :P The question was: How do I quote your posts here? I don't see any button for that. ^^'

'''The thing is that everything related to Captain Hawkins was already shown. '''

Uh - no it wasn't.

And that's his ship, his friendship with Governor Swann, and his death at the hands of Mercer.

Uh - no it isn't. How did he pocure the ship he captained? What did he do to earn captaincy? What is his first name? How did he meet the Govenor, let alone befriend him, seen as a Governor is to high status compared to a ship's captain that it isn't certain a man like Weatherby would want to openly associate with him, so Hawkins must have left quite an impression.

There is loads of information relating to his role in the movie that we don't have.

Hawkins has been confirmed to be Jim's father by a reliable canonical source, without any other source contradicting it.

'''Yes, The Price of Freedom proves that a pirate captain named James exists in the POTC world. That pirate also has a hook in place of a missing hand and he's afraid of small boys. But that's all we know about him. You know why? Because this is the Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki, not the Treasure Island Wiki nor the Peter Pan Wiki. This Wiki covers only the POTC materials. Treasure Island and Peter Pan are not parts of the POTC world. '''

All evidence to the contrary, chief. There is a very real difference between Treasure Island and Peter Pan not being part of the story, and not being part of the universe. Shall we start dismissing Thor, Loki and the other Asgardians from the Marvel universe because they're from Norse mythology and not fictional superheroes like Iron Man and Captain America too?

It's the same thing. Treasure Island and Peter Pan co-exist with Jack Sparrow, they just haven't met/been confirmed to have met and thus isn't central to the story, but - they're there. Just not there.

'''Hawkins and Hook are just borrowed elements. It doesn't matter if Disney owns all three franchises. They are still officially separated. Any attempt to combine them all based on out-of universe sources (which Treasure Island and Peter Pan are from the POTC point of view) is nothing but speculating, and we don't allow speculations in our articles. '''

You are naturally correct. To combine the three based on out-of-universe sources, would be speculative. But we're not. We're talking about in-universe sources, like the Price for Freedom and Dead Man's Chest. Borrowed elements or not, they're still present, which renders them part of canon by default until contradicted within the narritive or the creator(s) at a later point.

If Disney one day decides to combine all three franchises into one, 

They already have, they just were subtle about it because everyone and their grandmother would agree pushing Jack and his band of misfits into Neverland or onto the shore of Treasure Island, which are both world-renowed stories in their own right, would be cheap and unimagnitive. It doesn't mean the three don't co-exist within POTC's own canon, it means that Disney know how to please their audience.

then we'll make articles for the stories (and their characters, locations, events, etc.) of the other two franchises, but not before.

They could be added.There is no need to, because they're so insignificant to the adventures of Jack Sparrow that covering all of it, but adding a simple page on Neverland, describing what it is and the fact that James' connection to it with a trivia note linking it to the wikipedia page of Peter Pan. The same could be done to Treasure Island.