Forum:Jack's lordship, Teague, Piece of Eight, and Jolly Roger

''Jolly Roger was a merciless soul, but the Pirate Brethren Court found a good use for him. Jolly was their henchman, performing unsavory deeds when the Court did not want to soil their hands or reputations. For his service, Jolly knew that one day, he'd be voted onto the prestigious Court - something he wanted more than life itself. Jolly and Jack Sparrow had been friends, long ago, and he was always envious of Jack's uncanny luck. As Jack's reputation grew, so did Jolly's resentment. So when Captain Teague left the Court and gave his seat to his son, Jack Sparrow, Jolly vowed revenge.''

This is what the POTCO Lore says. Now to get to the point.

1) Jolly Roger tried to obtain the position of Pirate Lord of the Caribbean, by intending to win Jack Sparrow's piece of eight. However, Sparrow outsmarted Roger and thus started their feud.

2) We know that Teague abandoned his position of a Pirate Lord to become a Keeper of the Code. But Teague was already a Keeper of the Code during the events of Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow: Sins of the Father, which means that if he passed his title of a Pirate Lord to Jack, Jack became a Pirate Lord when he was fifteen years old (which can't be true, of course).

3) Now we know from the Pirates of the Caribbean: The Price of Freedom novel that Esmeralda was a Pirate Lord of the Caribbean before Jack. A position which was passed to her from her grandfather, Don Rafael.

4) We know from the AWE second DVD that Jack got his Piece of Eight, (or at least the beads from the POE) from a Moroccan lady of ill repute. If we assume that only the Siamese coin was the original POE, and we know that the coin was one of the first two bits he ever pirated, should we assume that he stole that coin from Esmeralda?

So, this is my theory. The story from the POTCO Lore is wrong. When Teague abandoned his position of a Pirate Lord, he hasn't passed his title to Jack, but to someone else. When Jack grew up, he stole the Siamese coin from Esmeralda, and became a Pirate Lord. But that also means that the story of Jolly Roger is non-canonical.--Uskok 17:37, January 10, 2011 (UTC)