Thread:Uskok/@comment-27295021-20180325125431/@comment-27295021-20180402132101

'''No worries, everything's fine. I was absent for a few days and I completely forgot about our discussion. The company I'm working for sent me to a new workplace in another city and I didn't have access to the internet.'''

That's a relief! For a moment there, I was worried I had annoyed you. ^^' Btw, how do you

'''But that's the thing. All those adaptations are exactly that - the official adaptations of Treasure Island. The book was never adapted for Pirates of the Caribbean and as far as I know, Disney has no plans to adapt it any time soon, if ever. '''

Of course not, that'd be ridiculous, the story's about Jack Sparrow, not Long John or Jim Hawkins. But - what does that have to do with whether the events of Treasure Island is part of the POTC extended universe/canon or not? If POTC don't go in detail about Treasure Island, that would be because that particular story is one Jack Sparrow weren't a part of.

Hawkins is the only link between Pirates of the Caribbean and Treasure Island, and that link is too weak to prove that the world of Pirates of the Caribbean and the world of Treasure Island are one and the same.

A "living, breathing" human being is too weak of a link? That's like going to the museum, stand next to a bunch of fossils and ask how we can know for sure that evolution is a thing.

If Hawkins exist in POTC, so does everything relating to him, otherwise - where the heck would he come from? That aside, okay, in the original Peter Pan, James Hook is said to be the only one Long John Silver ever was afraid of, confirming that Captain Hook and Long John co-existed within the narritive of Peter Pan. Unless we are to pretend the Price of Freedom, in which James Hook appear, (and since he disappear and don't age, that proves Neverland exists in POTC canon, meaning everything in Peter Pan do happen, just "off camera" at a later time). So James is part of POTC. Long John was afraid of James. Hawkins, the father of young Jim, appear in canon, and both have been adapted by Disney. What prevents POTC from being an extended, unseen universe of Peter Pan and Treasure Island, exactly?

'''We take the Word of God with extreme caution on this Wiki. --- For example, the Pirates fans have argued about Will Turner's fate in At World's End for years. You know why? Because every official POTC material said that the captain of the Flying Dutchman must sail the seas for eternity. However, when Terry Rossio used the original Flying Dutchman opera as a proof that Will, in his opinion, was free after ten years of service, he made us all scratch our heads in confusion. On one hand we had the official materials which said one thing, and on the other we had one of the writers who was using an out-of-universe source to say another thing. Fortunately, Dead Men Tell No Tales cleared the confusion once and for all. And you know which explanation prevailed? The printed one.'''

That don't prove that Treasure Island don't co-exist in POTC. That proves that the creators had originally intended to move on from Will and Elizabeth and encouraged the aduience to make up their own minds on what happened to Will afterwards. The On Stranger Tides came out, which was a far cry from being a very good movie in any sense of the word, and they decided that when the sequel came along, to have Will and Elizabeth come back because they were fan favorites and having them return hopefully meant more money would come trilling in their pockets. So - it only proves Will and Elizabeth is popular characters and that the movie makers wanted to profit on that fact, and not really much more than that.

Also, unless you can prove the concept of Hawkins, and by extension the rest of Treasure Island, being a part of POTC canon have been contradicted somewhere, the validity of your argument is one I will bring into question in a heartbeat. You are comparing fan favorites and profit to throwaway references to the extended universe of POTC canon, and they're not the same.

I don't know why was Captain Hawkins officially named in the novelization. As you say, he was an insignificant side character, but the fact is that he was mentioned, and we can't ignore that.