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Calypso and Tia Dalma Edit

Calypso and Tia Dalma were the same person in the movies, but was that always the case? In other words, was Calypso rasformed into a human woman and took the name "Tia Dalma," or was Tia Dalma a seperate enity whose body was taken over by Calypso? - Captain J. Sparrow

I think she was transformed, as otherwise the body would have stayed on the Pearl after Calypso was freed. El Chupacabra 07:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
"It has been torture – trapped in this single form" - to Davy Jones. Seems that Calypso, at full power, may be able to possess others or at least alter her appearance -- which ties in with the powers of her "peers" in works such as The Odyssey - Captain Kwenn Talk 09:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Is Calypso in PotC supposed to be the same person as in The Odyssey? El Chupacabra 12:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I think she's derived from the same myth, though not the same character -- I wasn't intending to connect the two with my comment, but just note the similarity, which, if Ted and Terry drew on The Odyssey during writing, may help the discussion - Captain Kwenn Talk 16:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Since Calypso was bound in the form of Tia Dalma, do you think we should merge the articles, or keep them seperate in order to distinguish the acts of Dalma and Calypso?

Cotton'sparrot92 05:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)Cotton'sparrot92

I think that by "single form", she implies that, as a goddess, she took be more than one thing at a time ie. When she became the hundreds of crabs. Having said that, I think that the form called "Tia Dalma" was simply the form Calyspo took when she wanted to interact with humans, and that tue Brethren Court locked her in that form, and Calypso took yhe name Tia Dalma to intagrate into human society. I think we shoulf merge Calypso and Tia Dalma, as Tia Dalma is merely one of Calypso's many forms, plus it adds to the confusion if they are seprate articles. 67.242.139.59 20:28, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

So, are they going to be merged or what? --Samoth 07:32, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

No. In Pirates of the Caribbean: Armada of the Damned, Calypso and Tia Dalma are separate entities.--Uskok 10:13, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Not to be scpetical, but can you provide the source of this information? And if this is true, how does it work? Does the first Tia Dalma die and Calypso takes on her identity? --Samoth 15:17, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it is known for both the game AND the films, while Tia Dalma is a voodoo priestess in Calypso's human form, Calypso is the goddess of the sea. So you see, 2 very different characters. CJSFan 15:24, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the films don't really try to differentiate between the two. Davy Jones never refers to her as Tia Dalma, but Calypso only. Just because when she took on the name Tia Dalma she became a voodoo priestess doesn't mean she was a different person, just the same person under a different guise. "A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet" --Samoth 15:29, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
  • The main story quest has an obvious path to follow, but there are also loads of side missions which introduce you to the likes of voodoo priestess Tia Dalma, long before she joined Jack Sparrow’s crew.[1]
  • Sterling will be able to seek the imprisoned spirit of Calypso, and by releasing her, he will also release his own soul and destiny.[2]

Satisfied?--Uskok 16:03, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but to be honest, not fully. Mind you, just because there is reference to the two aspects of Calypso doesn't necessarily mean they're two seperate entities. And it wouldn't make much sense to depict the actual release of Calypso in Armada of the Damned, as it takes place much earlier that the first film; maybe that quest does not prove to be actually successful. Or is it possible Calypso was imprisoned even before Davy Jones betrayed her? The best course of action is to wait until the game comes out so we can see what's really in there. --Samoth 16:13, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, we don't have to. As shown in the Official POTC site, Tia Dalma and Calypso are 2 completely different characters. We cannot deny what Disney has shown(this is a Disney franchise after all). CJSFan 19:01, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Pieces of eight Edit

Two of the pieces of eight were still missing from Ragetti at the end of the Brethren Court meeting, Jack's and Elizabeth's. After Barbossa gained Jack's piece at the parley, he still had to remove the last one from Elizabeth right before Calypso was freed. --213.130.252.227 20:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

We already know that.--Lord Cutler BeckettPort Royal 10:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Greek mythology - "sea goddess" Edit

Nothing major, but the Calypso from Greek myth was a nymph, not an actual goddess. Unsigned comment by 95.148.229.103 (talk • contribs).

First, please remember to sign your post with four tildes (~~~~)
And secondly, I now think that this does need fixing. I just took a quick look at our sources regarding Calypso and none of our current sources state that Calypso is the same person from Greek mythology. The only similarities that I can see is that Calypso's a woman, and that she was the daughter of Atlas(revealed in the AWE video game). So I'd probably say this difference will be placed in the Behind the scenes section. --J Fan SigOn Stranger Tides, Arkham City 08:15, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
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